To: Mike Smith Cc: dugsong@_ERASE_OpenBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wordperfect-8.0 GUILG00.GZ From: "Julian Stacey" - Corel does not own wrapper & has no rights to control _content_ of wrapper. - _Use_ of wrapper could be a matter of differing legal opinions, in varying legal jurisdictions, whether it is necessary to read web before ftp'ing. - _Provision_ of wrapper might be claimed to be incitement to infringe Corel's rights (to force people to read their licence twice!) in some jurisdictions. - Seems no point preparing a patch for `package`. > From: Mike Smith Mike Smith wrote: > > The current behaviour of the port is as required by both Corel's lawyers > and simple commonsense. It is not open to negotiation. > > > Hi Mike , > > cc dugsong@_ERASE_OpenBSD.ORG > > Ref. Disabled fetch on FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE ports/editors/wordperfect/Makefi > le > > > > IGNORE='The source to this port may not be automatically fetched due to lic > ensing restrictions. You MUST fetch the source manually after reading and ag > reeing to the license at: http://linux.corel.com/linux8/download.htm > > > > Does the Wordperfect server fail to work without intervention ? > > unless so, `make fetch` should Not be crippled. Better just echo like this > : > > "Suggestion: read licence at http://....... while this 23 Meg fetch > > runs, (it is not freeware, & if you don't like the conditions you may > > want to abort)." > > > > Wordperfect embeds legal stuff in their distfile. No point burdening us tw > ice. > > It's Not BSD's job to be Wordperfect's lawyers or watchdogs, nor to > > mandate supplier's standard conditions of issue in the law of the country > > of issue, over recipient's standard conditions of receipt, subject to law o > f > > country of recipient. The fetch should be neutral & automatic, > > & leave humans to decide law & abort if appropriate. > > > > I see NO_CDROM is already set to protect WC Inc (& other CD compilers). > > Might you want to add NO_PACKAGE too ? (not that I care, localy I package e > verything > > regardless, for local installation on personal hosts) > > > > BTW I received Wordperfect _Without_ agreeing to Any Wordperfect conditions > ! > > I found these files > > 23730473 Dec 9 1998 ./corel_wp8/GUILG/GUILG00.GZ > > 8627863 Dec 9 1998 ./corel_wp8/GUILGDE/GUILGDE0.GZ > > 8529573 Dec 9 1998 ./corel_wp8/GUILGNL/GUILGNL0.GZ > > 12381814 Dec 9 1998 ./corel_wp8/GUILGUK/GUILGUK0.GZ > > 4261 Dec 7 02:28 ./corel_wp8/Readme.html > > 145173739 Dec 3 13:28 ./winlinux/WL2000FB.EXE > > in the top linux/ directory of a cd-rom that came glued to PC Direkt Maga > zine > > 2/2000 (price German DM 4.90, (about $2.5 USA)) The CD was sold to me und > er > > German point of sale law, (not USA vendor's law, nor English purchaser's > law). > > No paper licence readable at purchase. > > > > I'm not sure what German law is, but in England, contract law voids subsequ > ent > > restrictions that suppliers try to impose after purchase/ exchange of contr > act: > > NCP (National Car Parks) years ago lost a case in the appeal court, in wh > ich they > > claimed legal conditions on a notice board inside their car parks were bi > nding. > > The judge voided all conditions, as they were not available to > > the customer before he was trapped inside & had to pay. NCP now post > > conditions early in the ingoing queue, & provide a free escape lane befor > e > > the ticket machine, for those who wish to read then decline the contract. > > > > The shop has my money, I have a CD, at no time between offer for sale, & > > purchase, did I have any chance to read or agree any licence. I don't plan > > anything disreputable, but on principle, I will not accept any conditions > > subsequently imposed, that are not mandated by German national law. > > > > Ayway, to return from the aside, having illustrated how all this legal > > stuff is worth a lot less than companies would you have believe, I suggest > > if you can automate the fetch, please do. > > > > PS FYI: > > make package > > ===> Building package for wordperfect-8.0 > > Creating package .../3.4-RELEASE/packages/All/wordperfect- > 8.0.tgz > > Registering depends: linux_base-5.2 rpm-2.5.6. > > Creating gzip'd tar ball in '.../3.4-RELEASE/packages/All/ > wordperfect-8.0.tgz' > > tar: can't add file lib/corel/shlib10/fonts/.wpc8x.set : No such file or di > rectory > > tar: can't add file lib/corel/wplib/dt/appconfig/appmanager/C/WordPerfect_8 > /wpx : No such file or directory > > tar: can't add file lib/corel/wplib/dt/appconfig/help : No such file or dir > ectory > > tar: can't add file lib/corel/wplib/dt/appconfig/icons/C/wp8App.m.pm : No s > uch file or directory > > tar: can't add file lib/corel/wplib/dt/appconfig/icons/C/wp8Run.m.pm : No s > uch file or directory > > tar: can't add file lib/corel/wplib/dt/appconfig/types/C/wp8.dt : No such f > ile or directory > > > > cd /usr/local > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 110 Feb 4 18:25 ./bin/xwp > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8008636 Feb 4 18:18 ./lib/corel/wpbin/xwp > > > > If you want to do the fetch bit ? I'll come up with a patch ? > > > > > > Julian Stacey