Stop Press 8th July 2016: Mail Disruption
Between 16 Jun 2016 & Fri, 1 Jul 2016,
Bad Mail Providers rejected list mail from
servers including berklix
Bad Mail Providers
Some Good Mail
aol.com aol.de compuserve.com
hotmail.co.uk hotmail.com hotmail.de live.de msn.com
yahoo.co.uk yahoo.com yahoo.de yahoo.fr ymail.com
- Some other domains might also be served by these bad
- Bad Providers adopt stupidly simple spam detector
rules, such as "Individual mail we'll pass, but list
mail to more than eg 6 recipients may be spam so we block
unless we can force list operators (like Berklix) to accept our
half baked SPF & simlar non standard rules."
Test list mail from berklix to your address
- Dont send test mails as broadcast to main lists,
that annoys many other subscribers!
- Subscribe to list zz-test via
Unfortunately, as there's usually very few addresses
subscribed at any one time to zz-test (only people
currently testing), you may not trigger & detect
your bad provider's daft bulk spam detect rules by mailing to
zz-test. Maybe later Berklix will
permanently subscribe a number of null addresses to
zz-test@ to get round that idiot detector rule of Bad
amirhmoin.com arcor.de basler.de berklix.com berklix.org
chesalb.de cockcroft.de craincom.de de.astellas.com
debitel.net devnet.de epo.org esea.com eso.org eurocub.com
fcagney.com framepool.de freedict.de freenet.de genion.de
germanynet.de gmail.com gmx.at gmx.ch gmx.com gmx.de
gmx.net googlemail.com guru.de hypovereinsbank.de iee.org
jekat.com kclalumni.net ltx.com martin-collins.de metz.im
mglug.de millard.ch mittelalter.com mnet-online.de msd.de
muc.mtu.de nexgo.de o2.com oracle.com pacbell.net
partner.bmw.de renemagic.com rrison.de schaufenbuel.net
semitest.de snake.de soeldner-muenchen.de stuartdean.de
t-online.de t-systems.com talk21.com tele2.de thunell.com
thunell.de tuco.de verilab.com web.de wp.pl
Of course, there is a world of other good domains also not
Subscribers Of Berklix Lists, Your Help
Please phone or mail forward this to your Berklix friends on Bad Mail Providers, & tell them if they
haven't received Berklix list mail with
event announcement(s) etc recently, they're still welcome
to join us. They were not removed from Berklix lists. It's that
their Bad Mail Provider has deliberately
rejecting list mail, including from Berklix, flooding Berklix with Reject
- Do not trust your mail provider, it deliberately
blocked mail, may still be doing so, or may resume
- Complain to your mail provider.
- Plan to Dump your mail provider.
- Ask friends which mail provider they use & why,
there's lots of Good Mail Providers,
many free, & also some paid with phone line etc.) any
not listed above as Bad Mail Providers
should be OK.
Get a 2nd mail provider.
- Notice the Bad Mail Providers
seem to be Microsoft owned, &/or USA based ?
- Some Bad Mail Providers have
been trouble before, trying to cut staff by forcing
their mail admin work (especially for such as list
mail) back on senders & attempting to co-erce the
Internet to half baked non standards.
- Better subscribe via a Good Mail
Provider, perhaps owned, managed, run &
regulated in Europe, though most non MS owned, non
USA major providers, anywhere else in the world are
probably also OK.
- Subscribe your Good Mail Provider
- Unsubscribe your Bad Mail Provider
- If You Remain Subscribed Via Your Bad Mail Provider, Berklix May Forcibly
Unsubscribe You Without Notice, to protect list
owners from reject noise from Bad Mail
- If your provider is not listed above, your provider
is Good Mail Provider, Berklix has seen no
error report, no need to ask Berklix if you are
TECHNICAL (non technical people should skip this):
The Bad Mail Providers
were trying to
force List Servers to change header From: & Sender:
fields etc (& some wanted DMARC
& / or other things
Early July, it seems some Bad Mail
Providers may be backing off again, bounce errors are
reducing; Probably some will try again, as some have tried
before for SPF, it's still worth dumping Bad
Mail Providers for Good Mail
its headers on FreeBSD.Org (&/or other
independent internet developers).
Berklix is not
co-erced by large American owned Bad Mail
Providers or Microsoft inspired (non!) "standards"
There have been articles before criticising MS backed
ideas such as SPF; Search for "
SPF considered Harmful" (Here's one at
not waste time unpaid, pandering to requirements of Bad Mail Provider that often have also
evaded responsibility, failing to provide postmaster@ &