What We Are, and are Not
What We Are
- BSD - Unix
developers & consultants & service providers & users,
& company owners,
focusing & supporting & promoting local BSD-Unix usage, for
For all member's BSD personal & business benefit, for both the BSD fun & profit of
members, & for the encouragment of increased BSD development & contribution back to the wider BSD communities.
- More than just a Berkeley monthly drinkers/ Stammtisch club, & more than just a BSD local chat list (though both those are provided too).
We encourage BSD contacts in the wider community, &
Jobs: If anyone finds BSD jobs through BIM,
doesn't matter who & whether employee or freelancer:
we're pleased for them: A more buoyant computer
sector, & an expanded BSD sector in Munich is good for
most people's BSD job security & career/ mobility prospects.
We provide certain
Internet services in Munich for BSD systems & people,
Web server space for BSD compliant source code etc,
Webmail & Cvsup server
Mail lists for BSD activities.
logins (not dial-ins) to BSD hosts, including compilers etc.
To minimise our (unpaid) support effort,
users are required to interface to our facilities with
BSD or at least Linux &/or public standards compliant systems
We have no time to waste on peoples Microsoft
access problems, (unless you are willing to pay us, in which case
at commercial rates).
Open to all nationalities.
use English on international mail lists,
but German is sometimes be used for
issues of purely local scope (but best not
for technical issues we may want to refer to international
- Our monthly Stammtisch speaks a mix of both languages.
(There are German language mail lists for non Munich-local stuff,
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Sorry, not as such. There is a good choice of Linux groups here
(A few of our membership go to both BIM & Linux groups, & some
BIM members work on Linux professionaly & BSD privately, etc).
If you solely want to discuss the Linux base systems, excluding all packages.
then a Linux group may appeal more, but do realise the
Vast amount of commonality Linux & BSD systems share,
eg GCC & ghostscript
& other FSF & X11 & KDE & perl & vmware & tens of thousands of
other public source packages that can run on both BSD and Linux.
BSD & Linux on occasion also adopt portions from each others /usr/src,
ideas &/or code, so we co-operate in that, as in also our common dislike of closed source, Microsoft, viruses & software patent problems etc.
Our limited free time mandates
a BSD-only approach to the base /usr/src systems support,
(but of course we share an interest in Many apps with Linux people, etc ).
We also have some people who regularly go to
both our Stammtisch & a Linux Stammtisch the same evening.
We also have people who work with Linux during the day, & switch to BSD in the evening.
discuss & use common things, eg FSF, GCC, X Windows, Qt, Tex ,
FVWM window manager, EXMH window manager, open office,
& a ports
tens of thousands of packages,
doubtless many of which will run on Linux too,
some developed on Linux & merely ported to BSD, & some other way round).
- We do of course
discussing porting stuff to & fro between Linux & BSD,
What we do not't cover is Linux specific distro & interface
etc stuff, leaving that to the Linux groups to discuss.
Linux magazines are also distributes at thhe the BIM Stammtisch,
eg an article on TeX is equally valid for Linux & BSD.
Munich Linux User Groups
Munich Internet Verein
support users of all operating system, including Linux.
(Some of their servers are
We dislike the company, its products, & environment.
Convert to BSD (or Linux)
available on many computers
: ( alpha amiga arc arm32 atari hp300 hppa i386 kbus m68k
mac68k mips mvme68k mvme88k pc532 pmax powerpc sparc sun3 vax wgrisc
latest list on front right column of NetBSD),
Or Do All Of These:
Find some other club
we have no interest in configuring access for Micro$oft software
Do Not Contact Us
we will not waste time on Microsoft compatibility problems.
was formed, was to avoid being bored & burdened by clueless Micro$oft users.
Ask your Micro$oft oriented ISPs, & Vendors For Help, Not Us !
There are lots of Micro$oft oriented ISPs & software &
system vendors, some of whom made money selling you software
& systems, so burden them with Micro$oft related problems,
Not Us !
Some Other Club
that might help or interest you.